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**Swamphunter** · 6th January 2011

64k1 posted:

:whoptc:

**Kill001** · 6th January 2011

The mosins look like paintball guns

rabbid666 · 6th January 2011

64k1 posted:

Why, tell me why???????? WHY, GOD!!!???

Deathwig · 6th January 2011

Right where did I put the thermite and dry ice...
Cause I'm going to find whoever did that to those poor mosins and blow him up.

Taepodong-2 · 6th January 2011

Swamphunter posted:

:whoptc:

I think it was an MG42 at one point.

**Swamphunter** · 7th January 2011

Is it even possible to convert an MG42 to be mag-fed?

**L_Dawg** · 7th January 2011

Taepodong-2 posted:

I think it was an MG42 at one point.

Aw hell naw.

**katbug** · 7th January 2011

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=...66&tx=90&ty=52

plastic, plastic, plastic...... yuck.

Edited:

plus the eotech is backwards

W0w00t · 8th January 2011

...backwards?
are you fuckin high

**katbug** · 8th January 2011

whups, didnt mean backwards. but isnt that the most plasticy, grossest, !#$% up gun youve ever seen that didnt need an eotech?

W0w00t · 8th January 2011

no

rabbid666 · 9th January 2011

):
EDIT:

D:

**L_Dawg** · 9th January 2011

What is that optic?

**venom** · 9th January 2011

NSP-3A NOD's iirc

Taepodong-2 · 9th January 2011

rabbid666 posted:

Well there's a Russian optic on it at least.

I'm still not happy at all about the AK-200.

There's an ACOG and backup iron sights on it when the PSO-1 and regular AK sights are just as good. Why did you do this Russia? The only AK that an ACOG looks good on is the RK-95.

**Ridge** · 9th January 2011

nevermind

**SeamanStains** · 9th January 2011

Even the Russian army are putting eotechs on guns.

Edited:

Modernisation is going to happen like it or not.

Recurracy · 9th January 2011

W0w00t posted:

reminds me of teh gun in killjone 1/2

About damn time somebody mentions Killzone

**Kill001** · 9th January 2011

Taepodong-2 posted:

Well there's a Russian optic on it at least.

I'm still not happy at all about the AK-200.

There's an ACOG and backup iron sights on it when the PSO-1 and regular AK sights are just as good. Why did you do this Russia? The only AK that an ACOG looks good on is the RK-95.

Why is the magazine so fat

Taepodong-2 · 9th January 2011

Kill001 posted:

Why is the magazine so fat

It's a 60 round mag. Instead of making it longer they made it fatter.

**Kill001** · 9th January 2011

Ingenious

Wtb airsoft version

Deathwig · 9th January 2011

Kill001 posted:

Ingenious

Wtb airsoft version

I think you already can

W0w00t · 9th January 2011

combine 2 hi caps???

**SeamanStains** · 9th January 2011

With a mag like that you could probably just throw it at someones face and cave their skull in.

Oh them Russians.

Heavy3 · 9th January 2011

Taepodong-2 · 9th January 2011

I don't see what's wrong with the DSR-1.

BassB · 9th January 2011

i don't see the point in some of the hate, of course most of these weapons are ridiculous, but why is it bad to put a plastic stock on an AK, i mean with todays technology we can create plastics with way more beneficial factors than wood (lighter/heavier, more durable, heat resistant, dirt repellant) as far as i'm concerned two exactly the same ak's but one has wood, and one has plastic and a rail, the plastic would be better because nowadays we can alter it in any way, and the rail can only be beneficial, you can always take it off if you really need no sights on it for some reason.

of course wood looks way more jummy, and probably is cheaper. but hating all plastic for that reason is either elitist or cheapskate.

**Stupideye** · 9th January 2011

We don't mind plastic (hell, I have a 74M, which has no wood on it) but don't really like rails. I can see their use in the real world, but I'd never get rails on my AK's.

Sweetie · 9th January 2011

BassB posted:

i don't see the point in some of the hate, of course most of these weapons are ridiculous, but why is it bad to put a plastic stock on an AK, i mean with todays technology we can create plastics with way more beneficial factors than wood (lighter/heavier, more durable, heat resistant, dirt repellant) as far as i'm concerned two exactly the same ak's but one has wood, and one has plastic and a rail, the plastic would be better because nowadays we can alter it in any way, and the rail can only be beneficial, you can always take it off if you really need no sights on it for some reason.

of course wood looks way more jummy, and probably is cheaper. but hating all plastic for that reason is either elitist or cheapskate.

I like plastic better on AK74s, wood works best on most others though. I'm not much of an AK fan though, I just think their pretty.

BassB · 9th January 2011

Stupideye posted:

We don't mind plastic (hell, I have a 74M, which has no wood on it) but don't really like rails. I can see their use in the real world, but I'd never get rails on my AK's.

thats reasonable, but some people in this thread just hate on everything plastic regardless

Mbbird · 9th January 2011

BassB posted:

thats reasonable, but some people in this thread just hate on everything plastic regardless

Sure, but what pains us most is 90% of these guns are used by civilians who just go to the shooting range and shoot off $100 of ammo. They don't need to put all that shit on their gun, it's ugly, and from a purist's perspective (which a lot of this subforum is) they're ruining the AK.

When we see a picture of a Russian soldier that railfucked his AK, we can't really hate him for it, because some of those things could be the difference between life and death.

BassB · 9th January 2011

Mbbird posted:

Sure, but what pains us most is 90% of these guns are used by civilians who just go to the shooting range and shoot off $100 of ammo. They don't need to put all that shit on their gun, it's ugly, and from a purist's perspective (which a lot of this subforum is) they're ruining the AK.

When we see a picture of a Russian soldier that railfucked his AK, we can't really hate him for it, because some of those things could be the difference between life and death.

if you're gonna waste 100$ on ammo every week you might aswell buy the best possible ak don't you :/

Mbbird · 9th January 2011

BassB posted:

if you're gonna waste 100$ on ammo every week you might aswell buy the best possible ak don't you :/

That's just it. Since you don't need a massive 5 billion lumen flashlight, western holographic sight, ugly folding foregrip, ugly plastic stock, and lasers all over, there's no reason to have that shit on your gun! Plain and simple. It's not a better AK because you spent more money on attachments than the gun itself. It just makes it ugly, in our eyes.

**Fragmatic** · 9th January 2011

Taepodong-2 posted:

There's an ACOG and backup iron sights on it when the PSO-1 and regular AK sights are just as good. Why did you do this Russia? The only AK that an ACOG looks good on is the RK-95.

AK sights are pretty shitty for rifle sights, but as with everything Kalashnikov, they work. As much as I prefer the "classic" AK style, most Russian hardware is in desperate need of an update. The newer AK's will be easier and cheaper to outfit for mission specific environments. Aside from optics, there really isn't much choice in things like lights for the AK series and that's a major downfall, especially in urban operations.

Another major advantage is weight - the rifle is lighter, the accessories are lighter (PSO-1 = 600g, ACOG = 425g, "znich" light = heavy arse, surefire g2 = LIGHT), it's not a lot but every weight saving means less fatigue for a soldier, ever tried skirmishing with a full load of old gear and a full load of more modern gear? As much as I dislike the look, it's time to face the fact that the Russian military need to keep up with the times.