But arrogance is at play here too. When my dad's work was slow and was losing money, did he do nothing? No, he got a job that was less than half of his current wage. Why? Because a little money is better than no money at all.
people respond to incentives
if you pay people to be poor they will stay poor
anyway isn't this starting to become a little bit offtopic?
if you have a guy not taking care of his car and you give him a new car he is not going to take of that one either, just doesnt work.
and then when less people work theres not enough money to supply those who "need it", and the entire system collapses.
you know of course after they printed fiat money at will and caused inflation
if people would pay their taxes happily at will then there is no need to use force
but oh wait if you dont you are put in jail
but if you wanted to know why people happily pay their taxes, well i would assume generations of taxes and state propaganda
its a bit like asking why people prior to late 19th century had no problems with slavery
So sensationalising everything. This is a area of serious, factual debate, sensationalising stuff is the polar opposite.
I'm gonna turn up at someone's house tomorrow, ask them politely to give me 20% of their earnings (I'll buy them some healthy nutritious food for them and their neighbours, keep enough to pay for my labour time (let's say £7 an hour - basically minimum wage - for my work), and put the rest to cancer research or something. If they refuse, I'll come back in a couple of weeks. Then if they still refuse, I'll tie them up in cable ties and lock them up in my basement for being immoral and refusing to help society, the selfish cunts.
But comparing a arrest to a mugging is fucking retarded anyway. The police are doing their job, a mugger is just after your belongings. Of fucking course I wouldn't comply to a mugger unless he had me by the balls and could severely injure me anyway, I care more about surviving than my money in the long run after all (again thank you universal healthcare for looking after me when the mugger does beat me and take my money).
I'm not sure why you think I'd leave people to die... I've stated on numerous occasions that I'd be happy to pay a voluntary healthcare tax if I had the income. I'd do my bit, but I don't want to be part of a system where we coerce everyone else into conforming to the same values as me.
Also stop with the ridiculous hyperbole when trying to compare taxation to things
The commodification of a person as a good to be bought and sold does not equal a system whereby a portion of everyone's labour is used for the upkeep of society. Any resemblance between the two is wholly contrived.
Also this has taken the predictable turn of not being about UHC but rather anarcho-capitalism and its ideological tenets. Please present to me why whatever system you are pressing would be more beneficial than UHC, which I remind you, is a proven and tested system which works even in 3rd world countries.
i was trying to say that the reason why people have no problems paying their taxes is because its such a thing we've been doing in the west for a very long time and everybody takes it for granted
like people did with slaves in the early days
I am not saying that taxation equals slavery
I absolutely hate it when people say "YOU'RE COMPARING X TO Y? YOU'RE A MORON!" Normally when somebody makes a comparison of something to something way worse, it's supposed to sound absurd and crazy. That's why it's called reductio ad absurdum. There's some lousy debaters on here.
It gives more reason to maintain a healthy population rather than just saying "not my problem" as society collapses.
i'm not rich - i don't have much money at all - i was born in a pretty shitty area as well, but it boils down to how much of a materialist you are, and how much you value things that give you no sense of accomplishment, achievement, pride or sense of being. i'd rather be 'poor' and know everyone (including myself) were happy than be incredibly rich and effect the well being of others for a false sense of power.