quite a lot of people ran away from the country
why suddenly Once Egypt rolled over Gaddafi became dangerous?
why the rebellion started near the borders of Egypt?
and the France here what they had interest in there? oh yes they had also problem with the Arabs
May someone provide me a price list of services of NATO, how much it costs disarming of countries.
Some to some swedes, NATO wants Sweden and Finland to take action too.
The West is inconsistent. The West has sponsored horrible dictators in the belief it would stop the spread of Communism. The West has problems with corporate corruption. I freely concede that. Tell me again how this means we're not allowed to stop this murderous madman, especially when the Libyan people have asked for this help, and the United Nations has given the go-ahead for the mission.
That being said, your post makes very little sense at all.
They pointed out the irony in the fact that the missile that is being talked about so much in the UK at the moment (the MBDA Storm shadow) is made by a company that had deals with Gaddafi
The BBC live page picked up on a tweet a little earlier that sums it up.
1334: harikunzru tweets:"Turns out UK is mainly blowing up stuff they sold #libya in 1st place. Oh, and #Bahrain is a beacon of democracy."
Saying that, Libya does have a lot of modern weapons for a country that has been under an arms embargo for a long time.
(actually, has it? I heard it had been but I can't find any concrete source on it)
I also found the cnn reporting of interest, parts of a cruise missile recovered from Gadhafi's compound with manufacture dates of Dec. / 06
The fact that Germany isn't partaking in this is a huge nuts kick for our national pride
Pretty awesome, our B-2's took off from the heart of America, flew all the way to Libya, Dropped 45x2,000lb JDAM's on what I guess was 45 different targets, then flew back all the way to Missouri. Non Stop.
For the pilots maybe... I wonder if they had a second crew with them on-board, or if one napped while the other was awake... They did re fuel in flight though
As a Finn, I am terribly ashamed that we have no plans whatsoever to take part in this operation D:
Althou i'm a sick fuck that actually enjoy war, i suddenly started to use my tiny brain. Is really bombing the right thing to do?
War to liberate the people? Sure, but i bet that the hate on gadaffi and his goons is pretty overrated. War will result in refugees, pain and probably more terrorism in the end.
Imagine so much food and blankets a single tomahawk missile would give.
I love the effect this crisis has had on British politics. The parties were at each other's fucking throats over EVERYTHING and it was really pissing me off, but over this they're united.
Have to say one thing though, all this didn't happen because we feel sorry for the rebels and the population. It could have been 10 times worse and even then we wouldn't have intervened unless we had something to gain.
I'm not complaining though, we gain from it, the Lybian people gain from it. Everyone is happy.
Well except Gadaffi, but that's ok.
From a military standpoint, everything has a value.
Pilots are extremely expensive both in terms of money and time to train. Aircraft are, obviously, extremely expensive and not easily replaced even if you have the money.
It isn't western values that I'm using here. It is simple math. Suicide runs with fighter aircraft don't come down in your favor.
Especially when you kill the tyrant's brother. That isn't going to stop the conflict, but it will make him more determined to kill as many of the rebels as possible before he is removed from power.
It was from that inaccurate judgement that AirLand Battle was formed on (read FM 100-5, 1986 edition). Even though it's now outdated, I can't see it being decisively effective against Soviet doctrine in the late '80s.
Suicide runs with combat aircraft are indeed unorthodox, but it's up to you if you want to dismiss anything that doesn't look right to you as "absolutely stupid".
...as long as said armored division is right out in the open. Iraq loved to do that back in 1991. Giulio Douhet's theories are amusing. Isn't it good that most of America's state adversaries are dumb enough not to think of the many counters out there?
Just a note for those who visited the article. I rebutted a lot of the claims there
You know you're wrong when I can refute your claims.
Quite frankly, the UN should do more intervention in such cases. The Rwandan genocide, for example, should not have been allowed to happen. Nor what recently occurred in the Ivory Coast. UN intervention in many African crises has been toothless. That needs to change. For the moment, it's good that at least one case is getting the treatment it needs.
so from that standpoint we just made it worse.
And also agree with everything else you said, the UN was founded to put an end to this kind of shit, not for diplomats to yell at each other and write angry letters while people die.
Gaddafi sends someone to bomb British plane, Britain sends British planes to bomb Gaddafi.
It's so good to finally get revenge for Lockerbie.